Yet Another Embarrassing Confession (you would think I'd have run out by now)

The absolute worst part about being a writer for me is grammar and punctuation. With every post I put up, every email I send and every story I write, I am waiting for someone to come back to me and say, "Seriously? How can a writer not know where to put commas?"

Commas are my enemy. I have no clue where they go. I try to put them where I think would be a natural pause in a sentence, but I know I'm usually wrong. I basically toss them up in the air willy-nilly and let them land where they want.

Can you recommend a grammar/punctuation book that is easy to understand? (I never took a "real" English class in high school, so I'm starting fresh). The Elements of Style is too...sterile for me. I need something I can easily grasp onto.

I'd greatly appreciate any, suggestions. (<< that comma was a joke. See, at least I can joke about my ignorance)

Comments

Jennifer said…
I'm always terrified to make a spelling or grammar mistake. After all, (comma!) I'm supposed to be a writer.
In college I had to buy a copy of Little, Brown, Compact Handbook. I still have it, and refer to it often even though it's an old edition.
I've also heard the Chicago Manual of Style is a good choice.

And I promise not to laugh at you if you won't laugh at me. (Unless, of course, you're telling one of your childhood stories. Those are hilarious!)
Lisa Miles said…
Thanks Jen! I promise I won't laugh at you. And you can laugh at my stories, (comma?) just not at my punctuation:)
Unknown said…
I feel your pain. I am the worlds worst speller :)
3 great books i can recommend: Eats, Shoots, and Leaves for punctuation; and Nitty Gritty Grammar / More Nitty Gritty Grammar for grammar and punctuation (these two are done with cartoons for examples).
Roxy said…
This confession is not all that embarrassing, Jen. I have way more embarrassing confessions than this! I suffered through The Elements of Style because Stephen King told me to in On Writing. It would have been a better book for me if the style elements they were talking about applied to clothes, handbags, and shoes. Satan invented semi-colons.
P.S. These word verification characters below intimidate me. They feel like an intelligence test that I'm not sure I will pass...
Lisa Miles said…
Thanks Michelle, cartoons are right up my alley.

Roxy, I skipped that part of Stephen King's book:)
Mary Gray said…
Just so you know, one of my favorite new writers, David J. West, has the weakness. Dude, I wish that were my weakness. It's so easy to fix!! Don't worry! Commas are nuttin'.
Crystal Cook said…
Oh this made me laugh, not at your punctuation, but just how you said it! I am really bad about commas too, I never know where to stick them, see?
Raine Chasing said…
I'm write there with you on the Comma as you know from a few weeks ago with that editor that had something to say about every comma even though after viewing the style guide and saw it was right. EVIL COMMA!!!
Anonymous said…
Two books I love: Grammar in Plain English by Harriet Diamond, M.A. & Phyllis Dutwin, M.A.

and

There, Their, They're; A no-tears guide to grammar from the word nerd by Annette Lyon.

Both easy to read and understand and they cover a variety of topics. =]
Anonymous said…
Also, you can't go wrong with Strunk and White's The Element of Style. Tiny but OH so useful!
Hardygirl said…
I like Elements of Style, too.

I hate to tell you, hon, but grammar books ARE boring. There's just no way around it.

sf
Pat Tillett said…
Commas...
I put them in, I take them out, I put them back in again...

My primary problem, other than being somewhat stupd, is that I can't proofe reed my own writing very well.
Jennie Englund said…
Commas ARE insidious! They're everyone's weakness. You're the brave one for admitting it!
Erin Kuhns said…
Believe it or not, I actually remember learning about commas in elementary school. And I remember how lost I was, trying to figure it all out! I know where some commas go, but others aren't always as obvious. And I swear, some are so subjective that there is no book that will ever be able to teach you.

I sometimes think I overuse commas, but then I can't stand reading a book and there's a comma missing and the sentence just, doens't, make, sense.

:)
DL Hammons said…
My, grammar, is, so, bad, that, I, truly, believe, that, everytime, I, submit, something, my, high school, english, teacher, turns, over, in, her, grave!!!

Seriously! I've left my participle dangling plenty of times. Luckily, thats what critique partners and beta readers are for. Without them I wouldn't stand a chance.
Lisa Miles said…
Thanks for all the great tips about books!

DL, what is a beta reader? I've heard of it but I'm not sure what it is.
I'm always terrified of spelling errors. I learned how to read in England, before I moved to the US. Until this year I connected my spelling problems with that. I've been reading a lot of books from England this past year (research), there are so many words that are spelled differently. It finally clicked with me, that could be a big part of my spelling confusion.

THE CHICAGO MANUAL OF STYLE is supposed to be THE book to use. Randi Rivers at Charlesbridge sugested it to me. :)
Mary Aalgaard said…
I also have Eats, Shoots & Leaves - which I've looked at little. And, Under the Grammar Hammer. Also, a good grammarian in a writer's group is helpful.
Lisa Miles said…
Thanks! I found a podcast from the Grammar Girl's Quick and Dirty Tips. Has anyone read that book?
Lorel Clayton said…
I learned grammar from a 1910 book on business writing (I was a self taught home school kid for many years), so I found 'Elements of Style' to be wonderful and much easier to understand. If you want something in between ostentatious and sparse, go with the Compact Handbook JenE recommended. The Chicago Manual has too much information, so I'd avoid it, unless you want to know where to put the commas when referencing books and journal articles.
Rhonda said…
I'm an absolutely flagrant abuser of commas. I tend to write the way I think/speak and I just stick a comma in wherever I think a "pause" should be and hang the consequences. Which would probably also explain why every single term paper I ever submitted came back to me covered in notes about comma splices and run-on sentences.
Anissa said…
All my book suggestions have already been covered, so I'll just offer up a small tip. When in doubt, leave it out. :)
Christina Lee said…
oh I AM SO RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. THE WORST IS WHEN A READER POINTS SOMETHING OUT IN ONE OF MY POSTS!! But the interesting thing is, it seems to always be the same reader--what's that about? They may just be the punctuation police--LOL!!!
I second Eats, Shoots, and Leave. I saw someone mention Grammar Girl. I have her Quick & Dirty Grammar Tips and it's the awesome. Not dry or sterile, yet full of very helpful information.
Lisa Miles said…
Can anyone tell me which East, Shoots and Leave book? I found three or four of them on Amazon.
Carla Gade said…
I go to grammargirl.com.

Blessings,
Carla
http://writingtodistraction.blogspot.com
Unknown said…
Ha ha. I was a literacy teacher in NYC for a few years and here's a tip I always gave my kids COMMA which worked most of the time:

Everytime you feel like you are reading your writing and you should take a breath, chances are you need to insert a comma.

Example: I love you you are so funny! where would you pause when you are reading this to take a breath? answer: I love you COMMA, TAKE A BREATH, you are so funny!

Another example: There in the gusty blowing winds I found a bird.

There BREATH in the gusty BREATH blowing winds BREATH I found a bird.

Hope this helped!

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